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T O P I C R E V I E WSorchaI have looked at so many charts over the years but I have yet to see every angle at 0 degrees in cardinal signs. Obviously it exists in some charts but I would think it is fairly uncommon. But then, I'm not a professional astrologer so maybe this is not as rare as it seems to me?A guy I know has his ASC/DSC at 0'19 Libra/Aries and his IC/MC at 0'23 Cap/Cancer.Anyone else ever see a cardinal angle combo like this at 0 degrees?sandMine are at 0 degrees of the fixed signs. My astrologer mentioned something about it being an anaretic chart. Like somehow someway u get what you want or something.. He didn't touch on it further..Sorcha quote:Originally posted by sand:Mine are at 0 degrees of the fixed signs. My astrologer mentioned something about it being an anaretic chart. Like somehow someway u get what you want or something.. He didn't touch on it further..Wow, thanks for the reply sand! That's really interesting. I would think that it would indicate something karmic for sure since 0 is a critical degree. I see 29 degrees as a wrapping up and ending of something whereas I tend to look at 0 degrees as a new beginning.Do you have any idea how it impacts you or your chart?SaturnineMothmy natal - nope but my progressed chart is currently @Asc/Dsc - Libra/Aries 0° 4'40"Vertex/E.Point - Aries/Libra 0°12'55"IC/MC - Capricorn/Cancer 0° 5'23"@___@ i have no idea if it matters or what it would mean - AP's are supposed to be important I remember lala had mentioned it on aeole's thread, and seeing another on them while thread-mining through old posts! hehesandMy ic/mc are at 29 degrees of the cardinals. Searched for meanings of anaretic planets. I suppose u can take the meaning and equate it with a whole chart. I have an anaretic Pluto too conj my asc. Astrologers take the meaning of planets at an Anaretic Degree and encourage people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to correctly utilize the energy of that planet. The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the individual wants to grow and transcend or achieve reincarnation and spiritual reinvention of the physical form. PlutoYou've always had a difficult time accepting changes, letting go and starting anew. Recognize that change is a chance for rebirth and rejuvenation and that death is an infallible part of living. With every ending there is a new beginning. Your tendency is to hang on to the past for as long as you can. Accept the hand life deals you; take it moment by moment. Learn to start anew and to make life where there was once nothing. Pay closer attention to the health of your reproductive systemSorcha quote:Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:my natal - nope but my progressed chart is currently @Asc/Dsc - Libra/Aries 0° 4'40"Vertex/E.Point - Aries/Libra 0°12'55"IC/MC - Capricorn/Cancer 0° 5'23"@___@ i have no idea if it matters or what it would mean - AP's are supposed to be important I remember lala had mentioned it on aeole's thread, and seeing another on them while thread-mining through old posts! heheOh wow - you have the exact same progressed angles as he does in his natal! Do you notice anything different about the way people perceive you, or who you attract/are attracted to?Sorcha quote:Originally posted by sand:My ic/mc are at 29 degrees of the cardinals. Searched for meanings of anaretic planets. I suppose u can take the meaning and equate it with a whole chart. I have an anaretic Pluto too conj my asc. Astrologers take the meaning of planets at an Anaretic Degree and encourage people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to correctly utilize the energy of that planet. The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the individual wants to grow and transcend or achieve reincarnation and spiritual reinvention of the physical form. PlutoYou've always had a difficult time accepting changes, letting go and starting anew. Recognize that change is a chance for rebirth and rejuvenation and that death is an infallible part of living. With every ending there is a new beginning. Your tendency is to hang on to the past for as long as you can. Accept the hand life deals you; take it moment by moment. Learn to start anew and to make life where there was once nothing. Pay closer attention to the health of your reproductive systemAh, you have your angles at 29 degrees. I was wondering if that was the case when you said 'anaretic' instead of 'critical'.Yeah, I think that anaretic degrees are more so about wrapping things up energetically versus critical (0) degrees which represent a new cycle of energy. Still, I have only seen one or two charts with all angles at 29 degrees so I think that's likely just as uncommon.SaturnineMothMostly, from what I can assess as it is happening in the "here and now", I've been feeling more in tune with air element, and those with air in their charts. Being an air void by natal - this is probably the easiest thing to distinguish, since I've never had any good relations or experiences concerning/involving aery folk for the most part, there's always been an invisible rift, where I couldn't relate... now, there's a sense of needing to assimilate with that element... When my Asc slipped into Libra that was the biggest change, I think in part because of the converging of each of these degrees-angles became complete just then, and in transit - that would have coincided some with the move of Pluto (transformation) into my 5h (where my natal sun is), thrusting me into a transformation period... I've been reassessing my priorities in life, but that could also be the fact I'm in the midst of my Saturn return too... Everything is indeed coming together though, the transits (Neptune in Pisces, Pluto in Capricorn, and Uranus in Aries)... they all factor in somehow and in such a profound way, it's hard to observe and experience at the same time... I think in 3 years or so, when each of the transits, and progressions have settled in... it will be easier to look back and get an idea of what the hell has happened! XD right??? I think if someone is with these degrees, (which has to be a somewhat rare occurrence, though I'm not too good with statistics... that, in my humble opinion, would mean they had a special meaning for their present chart being this way... that goes for progressions too I think, and Draconics... imho! another small, possibly insignificant detail regarding my natal chart is that I have prominent theme that carries through each sign at both 5° & 15°, which coincides with my natal Nodal (N/S and Vertex/T.Point) axes. I can't say how important this is, but I have read that the 15° was at least in historic astrology, of some significance... - So maybe having progressions fall at the 0° now has me out of that cycle, and into a new one (or so I hope. haha) (the 15°, from what I recall - was mentioned unfavourably in relation to the equinoxes/solstices, in particular the degrees within Taurus and Scorpio) ^^; *didnttakesuchgoodnotessorry* I feel they are or must be somehow related to the soul's evolution... and in some way... karmic, perhaps? although I know karma is one of those debatable issues within astrology, sure... But, all things are in some way by some one out there... no? It's just my feeling that with mine or any 0 or even the 29 degrees that the times we cross onto these or lifetimes, are symbolic of our present level spiritual evolution... I don't distinguish it beyond that though, because we all cross them at some time or another... mine just happened during the progression, instead of between lifetimes/incarnations... or what have you... ^^;I'd try checking into his Draconic chart, and if you can, or care to... those Harmonic charts may be interesting to add into the search... ^^; (although I haven't the vaguest idea how to read them, and find them too complicated for my impatient mind!lol) He should be vigilant with his progressed chart too... to see how things are taking shape over time... everything has come down to transits so far with mine... but, I don't really know all too much about charts beyond the natal... It would be really great, maybe... if you could ask Ceridwen or IQ to look over their charts! Their expertise in these areas are far far far far farrrrrrr greater than mine! Be sure to let us know if you find any patterns between the other charts and their natal! k?! good luck~! Faithedit7thGuardian...oops, sorry i thought this topic was about Curious, Has anyone ever seen "angels (that's what i read)" like this? :3------------------ [☼ ► ♊ ... ☾ ► ♈ ... Ⓐsc. ► ♋]New Skins/Themes for Linda-Goodman forumVenusDiSiriusThe most interesting angles I've seen ---Pisces rising,with Gemini IC,where both Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces also ruling MC) and Mercury (ruling Dcs too) have no aspects but a quincunx to each other,Jupiter in Cancer,Aqua Merc at 0°Sorcha quote:Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:Mostly, from what I can assess as it is happening in the "here and now", I've been feeling more in tune with air element, and those with air in their charts. Being an air void by natal - this is probably the easiest thing to distinguish, since I've never had any good relations or experiences concerning/involving aery folk for the most part, there's always been an invisible rift, where I couldn't relate... now, there's a sense of needing to assimilate with that element... When my Asc slipped into Libra that was the biggest change, I think in part because of the converging of each of these degrees-angles became complete just then, and in transit - that would have coincided some with the move of Pluto (transformation) into my 5h (where my natal sun is), thrusting me into a transformation period... I've been reassessing my priorities in life, but that could also be the fact I'm in the midst of my Saturn return too... Everything is indeed coming together though, the transits (Neptune in Pisces, Pluto in Capricorn, and Uranus in Aries)... they all factor in somehow and in such a profound way, it's hard to observe and experience at the same time... I think in 3 years or so, when each of the transits, and progressions have settled in... it will be easier to look back and get an idea of what the hell has happened! XD right??? I think if someone is with these degrees, (which has to be a somewhat rare occurrence, though I'm not too good with statistics... that, in my humble opinion, would mean they had a special meaning for their present chart being this way... that goes for progressions too I think, and Draconics... imho! another small, possibly insignificant detail regarding my natal chart is that I have prominent theme that carries through each sign at both 5° & 15°, which coincides with my natal Nodal (N/S and Vertex/T.Point) axes. I can't say how important this is, but I have read that the 15° was at least in historic astrology, of some significance... - So maybe having progressions fall at the 0° now has me out of that cycle, and into a new one (or so I hope. haha) (the 15°, from what I recall - was mentioned unfavourably in relation to the equinoxes/solstices, in particular the degrees within Taurus and Scorpio) ^^; *didnttakesuchgoodnotessorry* I feel they are or must be somehow related to the soul's evolution... and in some way... karmic, perhaps? although I know karma is one of those debatable issues within astrology, sure... But, all things are in some way by some one out there... no? It's just my feeling that with mine or any 0 or even the 29 degrees that the times we cross onto these or lifetimes, are symbolic of our present level spiritual evolution... I don't distinguish it beyond that though, because we all cross them at some time or another... mine just happened during the progression, instead of between lifetimes/incarnations... or what have you... ^^;I'd try checking into his Draconic chart, and if you can, or care to... those Harmonic charts may be interesting to add into the search... ^^; (although I haven't the vaguest idea how to read them, and find them too complicated for my impatient mind!lol) He should be vigilant with his progressed chart too... to see how things are taking shape over time... everything has come down to transits so far with mine... but, I don't really know all too much about charts beyond the natal... It would be really great, maybe... if you could ask Ceridwen or IQ to look over their charts! Their expertise in these areas are far far far far farrrrrrr greater than mine! Be sure to let us know if you find any patterns between the other charts and their natal! k?! good luck~! Yeah, when you have a lot of transformational aspects going on all at once (plus your Saturn return!) I imagine it's hard to pinpoint which changes relate to which aspects. It's all just a flurry of new things. Like you said, you'll probably be able to look back and see it more clearly when it has passed.I think that the 0 degree does indeed indicate new things and to have all your angles exactly in line with the Aries point all at once is pretty cool I would love to post his chart but he's really private so I don't feel comfortable doing that. But I can say that he has Sun/Moon conjunct in Capricorn and so when Pluto finally arrives on his doorstep in about 7 years it will be interesting to see what occurs. His life has been relatively static and quite comfortable so I wonder what will transform.I will have a look at his Draconic - good idea It might shed some light on some of my thoughts.Sorcha quote:Originally posted by 7thGuardian:...oops, sorry i thought this topic was about Curious, Has anyone ever seen "angels (that's what i read)" like this? :3Ha! Sorcha quote:Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:The most interesting angles I've seen ---Pisces rising,with Gemini IC,where both Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces also ruling MC) and Mercury (ruling Dcs too) have no aspects but a quincunx to each other,Jupiter in Cancer,Aqua Merc at 0°That is interesting! The chart I am looking at has a locomotive pattern (I think - I'm sometimes unsure of astro patterns) and many aspects. Though I did just notice that he also has his Vertex at 0 degrees on the Aries point along with his descendant. Hm. The plot thickens.
A guy I know has his ASC/DSC at 0'19 Libra/Aries and his IC/MC at 0'23 Cap/Cancer.
Anyone else ever see a cardinal angle combo like this at 0 degrees?
My astrologer mentioned something about it being an anaretic chart. Like somehow someway u get what you want or something.. He didn't touch on it further..
quote:Originally posted by sand:Mine are at 0 degrees of the fixed signs. My astrologer mentioned something about it being an anaretic chart. Like somehow someway u get what you want or something.. He didn't touch on it further..
Wow, thanks for the reply sand! That's really interesting. I would think that it would indicate something karmic for sure since 0 is a critical degree. I see 29 degrees as a wrapping up and ending of something whereas I tend to look at 0 degrees as a new beginning.
Do you have any idea how it impacts you or your chart?
Asc/Dsc - Libra/Aries 0° 4'40"Vertex/E.Point - Aries/Libra 0°12'55"IC/MC - Capricorn/Cancer 0° 5'23"
@___@ i have no idea if it matters or what it would mean - AP's are supposed to be important I remember lala had mentioned it on aeole's thread, and seeing another on them while thread-mining through old posts! hehe
Searched for meanings of anaretic planets. I suppose u can take the meaning and equate it with a whole chart. I have an anaretic Pluto too conj my asc.
Astrologers take the meaning of planets at an Anaretic Degree and encourage people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to correctly utilize the energy of that planet. The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the individual wants to grow and transcend or achieve reincarnation and spiritual reinvention of the physical form.
PlutoYou've always had a difficult time accepting changes, letting go and starting anew. Recognize that change is a chance for rebirth and rejuvenation and that death is an infallible part of living. With every ending there is a new beginning. Your tendency is to hang on to the past for as long as you can. Accept the hand life deals you; take it moment by moment. Learn to start anew and to make life where there was once nothing. Pay closer attention to the health of your reproductive system
quote:Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:my natal - nope but my progressed chart is currently @Asc/Dsc - Libra/Aries 0° 4'40"Vertex/E.Point - Aries/Libra 0°12'55"IC/MC - Capricorn/Cancer 0° 5'23"@___@ i have no idea if it matters or what it would mean - AP's are supposed to be important I remember lala had mentioned it on aeole's thread, and seeing another on them while thread-mining through old posts! hehe
Oh wow - you have the exact same progressed angles as he does in his natal! Do you notice anything different about the way people perceive you, or who you attract/are attracted to?
quote:Originally posted by sand:My ic/mc are at 29 degrees of the cardinals. Searched for meanings of anaretic planets. I suppose u can take the meaning and equate it with a whole chart. I have an anaretic Pluto too conj my asc. Astrologers take the meaning of planets at an Anaretic Degree and encourage people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to correctly utilize the energy of that planet. The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the individual wants to grow and transcend or achieve reincarnation and spiritual reinvention of the physical form. PlutoYou've always had a difficult time accepting changes, letting go and starting anew. Recognize that change is a chance for rebirth and rejuvenation and that death is an infallible part of living. With every ending there is a new beginning. Your tendency is to hang on to the past for as long as you can. Accept the hand life deals you; take it moment by moment. Learn to start anew and to make life where there was once nothing. Pay closer attention to the health of your reproductive system
Ah, you have your angles at 29 degrees. I was wondering if that was the case when you said 'anaretic' instead of 'critical'.
Yeah, I think that anaretic degrees are more so about wrapping things up energetically versus critical (0) degrees which represent a new cycle of energy. Still, I have only seen one or two charts with all angles at 29 degrees so I think that's likely just as uncommon.
I think if someone is with these degrees, (which has to be a somewhat rare occurrence, though I'm not too good with statistics... that, in my humble opinion, would mean they had a special meaning for their present chart being this way... that goes for progressions too I think, and Draconics... imho!
another small, possibly insignificant detail regarding my natal chart is that I have prominent theme that carries through each sign at both 5° & 15°, which coincides with my natal Nodal (N/S and Vertex/T.Point) axes. I can't say how important this is, but I have read that the 15° was at least in historic astrology, of some significance... - So maybe having progressions fall at the 0° now has me out of that cycle, and into a new one (or so I hope. haha) (the 15°, from what I recall - was mentioned unfavourably in relation to the equinoxes/solstices, in particular the degrees within Taurus and Scorpio) ^^; *didnttakesuchgoodnotessorry*
I feel they are or must be somehow related to the soul's evolution... and in some way... karmic, perhaps? although I know karma is one of those debatable issues within astrology, sure... But, all things are in some way by some one out there... no? It's just my feeling that with mine or any 0 or even the 29 degrees that the times we cross onto these or lifetimes, are symbolic of our present level spiritual evolution... I don't distinguish it beyond that though, because we all cross them at some time or another... mine just happened during the progression, instead of between lifetimes/incarnations... or what have you... ^^;
I'd try checking into his Draconic chart, and if you can, or care to... those Harmonic charts may be interesting to add into the search... ^^; (although I haven't the vaguest idea how to read them, and find them too complicated for my impatient mind!lol) He should be vigilant with his progressed chart too... to see how things are taking shape over time... everything has come down to transits so far with mine... but, I don't really know all too much about charts beyond the natal...
It would be really great, maybe... if you could ask Ceridwen or IQ to look over their charts! Their expertise in these areas are far far far far farrrrrrr greater than mine!
Be sure to let us know if you find any patterns between the other charts and their natal! k?! good luck~!
Curious, Has anyone ever seen "angels (that's what i read)" like this? :3
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Pisces rising,with Gemini IC,where both Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces also ruling MC) and Mercury (ruling Dcs too) have no aspects but a quincunx to each other,Jupiter in Cancer,Aqua Merc at 0°
quote:Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:Mostly, from what I can assess as it is happening in the "here and now", I've been feeling more in tune with air element, and those with air in their charts. Being an air void by natal - this is probably the easiest thing to distinguish, since I've never had any good relations or experiences concerning/involving aery folk for the most part, there's always been an invisible rift, where I couldn't relate... now, there's a sense of needing to assimilate with that element... When my Asc slipped into Libra that was the biggest change, I think in part because of the converging of each of these degrees-angles became complete just then, and in transit - that would have coincided some with the move of Pluto (transformation) into my 5h (where my natal sun is), thrusting me into a transformation period... I've been reassessing my priorities in life, but that could also be the fact I'm in the midst of my Saturn return too... Everything is indeed coming together though, the transits (Neptune in Pisces, Pluto in Capricorn, and Uranus in Aries)... they all factor in somehow and in such a profound way, it's hard to observe and experience at the same time... I think in 3 years or so, when each of the transits, and progressions have settled in... it will be easier to look back and get an idea of what the hell has happened! XD right??? I think if someone is with these degrees, (which has to be a somewhat rare occurrence, though I'm not too good with statistics... that, in my humble opinion, would mean they had a special meaning for their present chart being this way... that goes for progressions too I think, and Draconics... imho! another small, possibly insignificant detail regarding my natal chart is that I have prominent theme that carries through each sign at both 5° & 15°, which coincides with my natal Nodal (N/S and Vertex/T.Point) axes. I can't say how important this is, but I have read that the 15° was at least in historic astrology, of some significance... - So maybe having progressions fall at the 0° now has me out of that cycle, and into a new one (or so I hope. haha) (the 15°, from what I recall - was mentioned unfavourably in relation to the equinoxes/solstices, in particular the degrees within Taurus and Scorpio) ^^; *didnttakesuchgoodnotessorry* I feel they are or must be somehow related to the soul's evolution... and in some way... karmic, perhaps? although I know karma is one of those debatable issues within astrology, sure... But, all things are in some way by some one out there... no? It's just my feeling that with mine or any 0 or even the 29 degrees that the times we cross onto these or lifetimes, are symbolic of our present level spiritual evolution... I don't distinguish it beyond that though, because we all cross them at some time or another... mine just happened during the progression, instead of between lifetimes/incarnations... or what have you... ^^;I'd try checking into his Draconic chart, and if you can, or care to... those Harmonic charts may be interesting to add into the search... ^^; (although I haven't the vaguest idea how to read them, and find them too complicated for my impatient mind!lol) He should be vigilant with his progressed chart too... to see how things are taking shape over time... everything has come down to transits so far with mine... but, I don't really know all too much about charts beyond the natal... It would be really great, maybe... if you could ask Ceridwen or IQ to look over their charts! Their expertise in these areas are far far far far farrrrrrr greater than mine! Be sure to let us know if you find any patterns between the other charts and their natal! k?! good luck~!
Yeah, when you have a lot of transformational aspects going on all at once (plus your Saturn return!) I imagine it's hard to pinpoint which changes relate to which aspects. It's all just a flurry of new things. Like you said, you'll probably be able to look back and see it more clearly when it has passed.
I think that the 0 degree does indeed indicate new things and to have all your angles exactly in line with the Aries point all at once is pretty cool
I would love to post his chart but he's really private so I don't feel comfortable doing that. But I can say that he has Sun/Moon conjunct in Capricorn and so when Pluto finally arrives on his doorstep in about 7 years it will be interesting to see what occurs. His life has been relatively static and quite comfortable so I wonder what will transform.
I will have a look at his Draconic - good idea It might shed some light on some of my thoughts.
quote:Originally posted by 7thGuardian:...oops, sorry i thought this topic was about Curious, Has anyone ever seen "angels (that's what i read)" like this? :3
Ha!
quote:Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:The most interesting angles I've seen ---Pisces rising,with Gemini IC,where both Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces also ruling MC) and Mercury (ruling Dcs too) have no aspects but a quincunx to each other,Jupiter in Cancer,Aqua Merc at 0°
That is interesting! The chart I am looking at has a locomotive pattern (I think - I'm sometimes unsure of astro patterns) and many aspects. Though I did just notice that he also has his Vertex at 0 degrees on the Aries point along with his descendant. Hm. The plot thickens.
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